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2.08 Timebomb, 3.06 I Got a Right to Sing the Blues, 3.12 Evil is Going On, Crystal Norris, Eric Northman, Jason Stackhouse, Season 3, Sookie Stackhouse, Tara Thornton
In episode 3.06, I Got a Right to Sing the Blues, Sookie’s minor doppelganger Crystal pretends she has no memory of Eric’s main doppelganger Jason:
Crystal: Who the hell are you?
Jason: What? Crystal, it’s me. Jason.
Crystal: What is this? Is this some kind of joke? I ain’t never laid eyes on you.
In ep 3.12, Evil is Going On, Sookie’s main doppelganger Tara informs Sam she wants to forget:
Tara: I wish I could just reboot. Be a completely new person. With a brand new life..without knowing any of this shit I have learned recently.
We can’t come to any other conclusion but that these scenes are foreshadowing Amnesia Sookie. Bill, who needs Sookie to forget ‘everything she has learned recently’, has already started the process by deceitfully luring her into his house by means of the fake fairies. Holly, the black-arts practicing fake Wiccan, is probably the cohort Bill will use to achieve his goal of a ‘rebooted’ Sookie.
Amnesia Sookie does not by any means rule out Amnesia Eric in some form. We’ve already had foreshadowing on this score.
In ep 2.08, Timebomb, Jason accuses Bill’s doppel Steve Newlin:
Sookie: Are you out of your mind?
Jason: Yeah, I was. That sumbitch, it’s like he sucked out my brain and planted all his own babies in there.
In season 3, Pam asks Eric “Who are you?” and Eric’s minor doppel Terry foreshadowed an Eric who is not himself, exactly, but a strange facsimili.
So there you have it. Sookie and Eric both out of their minds should make for a very interesting ‘reboot’ in season 4.
I was still on the fence about Amnesia Sookie, but, daaaeum, not after you reminded me of Crystal’s ‘amnesia.’ Everything about her relates to Sookie in one way or another.
Yep, and look how confident Felton is in her binding loyalty, and how casually he killed her own father and a random bystander/relative? in order to ensnare the girl and keep the blood for himself.
impressive argumentation!
But I am not sure if Sookie is literally going to lose her identity. Maybe she only metaphorically is missing her sense after the manipulation through Bill and the discovery of her fae-y-ness?
Then we had the fascinating situation in which Eric really has lost his memory while Sookie is struggeling with herself still torn between her “real me” and Bill´s lies.
Both are fighting to get back control over their lifes and during this process they really become allies and companions in this “war”.This could be a unique chance to find their inner core that is hidden behind personal traumas and guards. This was my wish for S4…
I don’t think she’ll lose all memory of who she is, she’ll just be ‘rebooted’ to her former self, to a more innocent state of mind. Sort of like restoring your computer memory to an earlier time, leaving out all the shit she has learned recently about Bill.
Both are fighting to get back control over their lifes and during this process they really become allies and companions in this “war”.This could be a unique chance to find their inner core that is hidden behind personal traumas and guards.
I totally agree with this!
I have to excuse that I missunderstood you, I guess it is simply the language gap.
I really like your idea of rebooting Sookie but I wonder how this exactly will play out. Are the faes really able to take away all the damage Bill has done? I agree that it would be good for Sookie´s character but on the other side I want her to deal as an adult with all that bullshit, realizing on her own how flawed her relationship was and how bad it affected her.
I´d love to hear a conversation with her and amnesiac!Eric about their failures in human life (I guess that Eric will still remember his human life) and how they could redeem themselves towards their family or friends. because seriously, Sookie needs to work hard to regain the respect and trust of Sam, Tara, Jason and Laf.
I agree that it would be good for Sookie´s character but on the other side I want her to deal as an adult with all that bullshit,
I couldn’t agree with you more! this is what we ALL want, for Sookie to deal with her bullshit on an adult level. However, this is the LAST thing Bill wants. He has an extremely strong motive to wipe her memories of all she has learned about him, and to take her back to the trusting innocent she was when they first met. And we all know Bill will do anything to keep hold of his blood/drug bag.
because seriously, Sookie needs to work hard to regain the respect and trust of Sam, Tara, Jason and Laf.
My gosh yes, totally. But right now, Sookie has no perspective. She is living IN this hell and can’t see her way out of it. After the amnesia, she’ll have the means to obtain the perspective she needs by being more able to clearly compare her former self to what she became at Bill’s hands. She’ll be able to see how dreadfully she wronged her loved ones and will begin to make amends.
sorry: sense of self, not only sense.
I will seriously have a seizure if amnesia Sookie happens but that seems to be where we are heading isn’t it GAH!!! Also something has to happen to Eric because even though he does not seem to grasp the full scope of everything that has been going with Bill’s evilness -if he encountered Amnesia Sookie he would know who did it. Gee only 241 days until we find out…
I know you bookies are seeing red over a possible Amnesia Sookie, but just remember, the story isn’t over yet! We have to be patient and wait for Grown-up, Wised-up Sookie. She’s a-comin’, don’t worry.
I’m just reading the books now just finished DTTW-I just hope there is some Amnesia Eric or like super vulnerable Eric and yet not Eric I actually REALLY want the coat thing to happen that ends the book for some reason I’m obsessed with that. (Oh and some sex in the shower or somewhere else PLEASE)
Caroline, I am sooo with you on not wanting an amnesia Sookie. I want her to be aware of her foolish choices and move on. To make amends to her friends and move on. The shower scene with Bill just about made my head explode. The air was filled with invective at AB and it took a LARGE glass of wine and a whole day to come down off the ceiling. lol. I want to believe that dark Claudine is a device to show that the fae aren’t all sweet and cute, not a manipulation by Bill to get her back to his lair. I want to believe that Crystal’s denial of knowing Jason was simply self preservation, that amnesia Sookie is an old soap opera device to change our perception of a character. But sadly, deep down, I think Sunny is right.
I will live in my fools paradise for awhile longer until I can accept that amnesia Sookie might make a more interesting story, and hope for a genuine
love scene with Eric. Three years of foreplay sucks. LOL.
Aww, come on ya’ll! Who doesn’t want Sookie to go back to her original self, the girl we met in season 1 before Bill fatally fucked with her head?
Who doesn’t want to see a ‘reboot’ of season 1, only this time with Eric very much in the picture and a real contender for the affections of Original Sookie? We’ll get to see what would have happened if Eric had become a presence in her life from the very start. By preventing Bill from having carte blanche exclusive access to Original Sookie, and running interference on Bill’s assaults of her mind and person, Eric will allow her feelings to develop naturally and therefore to make up her OWN mind about who she wants without being manipulated.
We know who she will choose. This will certainly be an unintended consequence to Bill’s machinations, to be sure, but don’t all his schemes backfire?
Of course, the blood she’s had from Bill will cause dramatic complications but I think this is where Jesus may come in…
I’ll look forward to Jesus and Laffy having a positive affect on Sookie. When Laffy was at her hospital bedside, he was the only one to truly “pray” for her recovery. It would also be good to see more interaction between the regular denizens of BT and the vampire contingent. Sam could also use some intervention from Laff and Jesus. Sam apologizing to Terry may be a small sign that bad blood has a life span, firing a gun at Tommy aside.
It would also be good to see more interaction between the regular denizens of BT and the vampire contingent
I am seriously in love with the idea of Eric hanging out at Merlotte’s.
In fact, I think I will make a post on this very subject!
Maybe he could be the substitute bar tender while Sam is indisposed. That would be funny.
LMAO! That would be great!
I’m working out a piece for TAP on yoga philosophy readings of True Blood and even though Amnesia Sookie will make me crawl up the walls to a degree-I believe in life (and in the context of a fictional show) things happen to us to help us learn and propel forward. Example-we saw just HOW Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader and even though it would have been nice to not have been head-fucked by Senator/Emperor Palpatine he had to get in that suit that was more machine than man to ultimately save his son-who was going to go on to do even greater things. The hero’s journey is always fraught with struggle (Frodo/Neo and on and on and on) so Ms. Stackhouse is no different-it looks like she has a super tough row to hoe though. I am just excited to see what happens and because I’m biased (read: crazed with obsession for) Alexander Skarsgard-I think based on what we saw from him as Eric in Season 3 that Season 4 whether he has lost his mind or Sookie has lost hers will be pretty amazeballs. (I hope Allen Ball are you listening?)
I think based on what we saw from him as Eric in Season 3 that Season 4 whether he has lost his mind or Sookie has lost hers will be pretty amazeballs.
I can’t argue with that.
I’m working out a piece for TAP on yoga philosophy readings of True Blood
I can’t wait to read it!
Amnesia Sookie will make me crawl up the walls
Can you or one of you bookies explain this to me? I don’t get the (almost violent LOL) resistance to this theory at all. We all want a different Sookie, right? The one we have now just ain’t cutting it, no matter why she is the way she is. OTOH, Eric is ‘amazeballs’ and I wouldn’t change a thing. I don’t need to see AE! What is the allure of this particular storyline in re: TBEric? If it’s all about the shower scene, I can’t see why Amnesia Sookie would rule it out.
I guess it’s because DTTW finally gave us bookies Sookie & Eric in a relationship and we were treated to another side of him that was absent in previous books.
Honestly AB has done a fabulous job of showing us the softer side of Eric already through his shared dreams with Sookie and Godric’s death.
So I think that for show purposes it’s not that important, we have already established that Sookie and Eric are attracted to one another and care for each other, Sookie knows about his softer side, but I still think it needs to happen since DTTW was based in whole on that storyline.
On the show it will be different and maybe Sookie will have some sort of amnesia along with Eric, but they both will need to regain their memories so that they can learn from their mistakes and grow as characters.
On the show it will be different and maybe Sookie will have some sort of amnesia along with Eric, but they both will need to regain their memories so that they can learn from their mistakes and grow as characters.
Agreed. Bill has very strong motives to make them BOTH forget. He can’t have Eric remembering that he tried to have Pam killed! He’d be a true dead motherfucker.
This is actually hysterical-I am totally not a bookie!! I just read the 1st 4 books in the last 8 weeks. I am actually kind of coming around to Amnesia Sookie. We need something to change. I guess what makes me want to crawl up the walls is how Bill will figure into all this. If I have to deal with a bunch more of his bullshit I will not be thrilled. I am actually not attached to the shower scene I was some semblance of the sentiment where Eric tells Sookie she is beautiful and how lucky he is she took care of him (and the coat) but I am “ride or die” at this point (ie I am up for whatever because my obsession with this show is all consuming and I am here for the journey)
I guess what makes me want to crawl up the walls is how Bill will figure into all this. If I have to deal with a bunch more of his bullshit I will not be thrilled.
I’m fairly certain you’re not going to be thrilled, lol. I’m pretty sure we’ll be dealing with Stepford Sookie for at least the first half of the season due to the spell Bill will have his witch put on her. She’ll remember her friends and family and she’ll remember Bill but she won’t remember any of the shit she’s learned about him, and she will not remember Eric. Sookie is going to be Bill’s simpering, curly-haired little pet for a time and we’ll ALL be wanting to slap the shit out of her even though it’s not her fault.
Tara will be gone from BT for a while so she’ll be no help and Bill can glamour Jason with a quickness so HE won’t be a problem. Lala may be the only one who notices something wrong with Sookie, but even he doesn’t know about the revelations about Bill and Sam’s ‘issues’ are definitely going serve as a distraction for everyone.
Remember Eric’s cell phone? This is a personal object that can be used to cast a spell so don’t count AE out AT ALL.
Sunny,
“Can you or one of you bookies explain this to me? I don’t get the (almost violent LOL) resistance to this theory at all.”
I think bookies read the stories and liked what they saw in their own imaginations and are frustrated they are not seeing a literal translation from page to screen.
I am a bookie, who as you know is in the habit of reading between the lines, who truly believes that AB is keeping with the “spirit” of the books. He is telling his story in a different timeline. Bookies need to remember that.
He has most certainly kept the progression of the relationship between S/E. B1/S1 Sookie met Eric at Fantasia, was afraid of him because Bill gave her the impression that Eric was the big bad evil vampire. Bill controlled Sookie in much the same way in both book and series. In B2/S2 Bill continued to control of Sookie and Bill also continued with his ‘Eric is Evil’ campaign. However when Eric showed up in Dallas, Sookie learned that there might be something kind and caring inside Eric. In B3/S3 Sookie learned that Eric had feelings for her and cared for her, body and soul, while Bill continued his ‘Eric is Evil’ mantra.
As you an see the progression of E/S is the same each book/season but the story is just being told a little bit different.
Last night I came across this at TV Guide.com: True Blood: Season 4
(2011) NR Alan Ball’s Emmy-nominated supernatural drama returns for a chilling fourth season that finds barmaid Sookie (Anna Paquin) reeling from revelations about her heritage and the real reason why her vampire boyfriend, Bill (Stephen Moyer), first sought a relationship with her. Now that she knows why she is a telepath, Sookie is unsure about which path to follow, while vengeful vampire Eric (Alexander Skarsgård) escalates his deadly feud with Bill.
I can only guess that the end result of S4 will be Eric and Sookie have some kind of caring and loving relationship and Sookie will pull back from Eric because of her fear of being hurt. Her heart will be tender, her self esteem will be very low because of her first/only relationship with Bill, and she will not trust her feelings for Eric.
(LOL, I’m calling it now!!)
IMHO, AB is writing Eric as more proactive in his pursuit of Sookie. In the books Eric left hints along the way, but wanted Sookie to want to be with him because she wanted to be with him and was willing for her to get there…
I am a bookie, who as you know is in the habit of reading between the lines, who truly believes that AB is keeping with the “spirit” of the books. He is telling his story in a different timeline. Bookies need to remember that.
From what I know of the books I agree. I’ve said all along that AB has taken CH’s hidden bombs and is exploding them one by one. From what I know, nothing he’s done so far is out of line with anything CH has implied in the text.
Osterby, I’ll try to explain this bookies early reaction to TB, before I learned to appreciate larger aspects through Sunny’s site and TAP’s site.
The books were my first love and had been reading them for a few years. The easiest thing to say is that the books are far ahead of the TV series in terms of the characters growth. Since we are a generation that is used to instant this and that, it just seems to take too long for the main characters to get to the point where they are in the books. Simplistic, I know, but that’s it in a nutshell.
For me, it was finding the sites mentioned just this past January. That’s when I got my first computer. Struggling with all the concepts discussed I think I’ve learned to appreciate the differences. Now I love the series and the books as two different mediums. That does not preclude the occasional melt down at the way AB presents the story. Usually it takes a little while for me to grasp some of the nuances, with the help of Sunny and TAP, and many of the people who frequent the sites.
True Blood the series is only approaching it’s 4th season. The books are at #10 and counting. Soooo……am I clear as mud? LOL.
You’re very clear to me BG. I think we all struggle to keep in mind that TB’s timeline is highly compressed and the development we wish to see over 4 years is unrealistic in terms of the world within the show. only a few weeks have passed in Bon Temps and Sookie hasn’t had the time to process all that has happened to her. She hasn’t had the time or distance from these traumatic events that she needs to gain perspective and wisdom from her experiences. This is why I think ASookie would be a truly GOOD thing, Bill’s intentions notwithstanding.
I’m beginning to accept the concept of ASookie. It’s the Bill parts that have me very concerned.
OT I tried to find where to put this thought re. shifter bat/Bill. Bats use a sonar system to find prey, right? Bill’s voice, the impersonation of Eric and the way he says Sookie’s name (timber etc) could be a clue to his control of her…. maybe?
Oh totally. The pitch and tone of his voice could def be used as a trigger. I’m still not convinced he can’t glamour her.
It’s the Bill parts that have me very concerned.
We know he has to be an integral part of the story and it has to be connected to Sookie. Puppetmaster Bill in total, blatant-to-the-audience control of ASookie is the best way I can think of to do it. What concerns me is the story might be presented in such a way as to force the audience to read between the lines. For instance, what if we don’t see Bill having the witch cast the spell and the viewers are left to assume, until late in the season?, that Sookie has CHOSEN to go back to Bill and behave as if nothing has happened? I’m TERRIBLY afraid that with Sookie losing her narrative voice along with her memory we might be getting a good portion of the season from Bill’s pov. That really scares me, to be honest, because getting not just a scene or two but the ENTIRE story from Bill’s pov is not something I’m prepared to deal with. I don’t think I can take sustained, outright false narratives! Can you imagine? In such a scenario Stepford Sookie will be presented as a good thing. Gahh.
Oh the horror–the horror.
That is my fear too. There will be many a melt down by many if that turns out to be the case. But, forewarned is forearmed. I’m sure we will all need your reassurance in S4. Gulp.
Yes, if we’re prepared for the possibility of the story coming from Bill, and know what to look for to see if this is happening, we’ll be prepared to anyalyze the story with this in mind. The problem is with the general audience not being able to perceive the switch in narratives and being forced to assume that the horror we are witnessing is being straightforwardly presented as the rebirth of the Romance of the Century.
That’s why I do not frequent Billcentric sites. I’ve had enough “discussions” with my otherwise intelligent sister-in-law re: Bill/Eric actions. Blech!!! It’s enough to make you pull your hair out.
I know, right? Because when we, or Sookie, are under Bill’s influence MANY key scenes, or details of key scenes, are left out and you CANNOT tell them something happened that they didn’t see. If they didn’t see it, it never happened.
The classic argument was the Rattray’s. Months and months ago I maintained that he let her get beaten up. When it was revealed finally, I thought it would change some of the perceptions she had. Well!! The reasoning I got was “But that was before he fell in love with her and he was ordered by his queen.” So now we agree to disagree and don’t discuss it anymore. Pity.
Lol..Bobsgran…I have patience problems too…that’s why I had 6 foot arborvitaes planted when I re-landscaped my yard, I just too old to for anything to grow….
Yah, I know what you mean. The only thing I seem to have patience for is my grandson. My son takes delight in reminding me that I wasn’t quite so patient when he was the same age. “Piffle” I say. I was a perfect mommy. ROTFL.
I would like to update: A season of Bill’s POV will make me want to crawl up the walls. I was just reviewing S2E9 and when Eric says “It’s done she is part of me now” the look on Bill’s face is pretty telling-before I thought oh he is just pissed but now I feel like he is thinking I am f—-d because Eric is now in the mix (and literally in Sookie) so that is a definite obstacle to totally controlling her.
Seriously, when the narrative is being heavily influenced by Bill I HATE this show and all of the characters even though I know what’s going on and why it’s happening. I get a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach at the hateful ways they are portrayed through the Bill-prism. (hmm, I wonder if there is a connection there to priapism? LOL, probably not.)
Very nice article. I have nothing to add except to say this was absolutely spectacular. However, I still doubt Amnesia Sookie but you have been correct a lot of times : )
Well, let’s be fair–I’ve also been wrong a lot of times.
Entertainment Weekly has a blurb today that has Kristen Bauer saying the Amnesia Eric plotline looks likely and I was sitting there reading my blackberry thinking of all my peeps (well I got here like 3 weeks ago but you know what I mean) here at TBU and how we have some different ideas. Also they said it has the potential to be really humorous which I cannot get on board with I want angsty, vulnerable, sad panda stuff.
Eh, the actors know nothing of what is coming. “Amnesia Eric” from AB could easily be a euphemism for ‘ASookie’ for all we know. Bill got a lot of Eric’s deeds in season’s 1 and 2, nothing stopping them from giving Sookie some of Eric’s plotlines. Anyhoo, I never ruled out AE–I do think we’ll get him in some form as the foreshadowing shows– I just put forth clues that we’re likely to get ASookie as well. THAT would be hilarious in itself when you think about the two of them stumbling around, clueless.
LMAO @ ‘sad panda stuff’.
Ha, I just thought of something: What if the spell Bill puts on her is about running to her hearts desire, thinking it will be HIM, but Eric finds her running down Industrial Drive toward Fangtasia one lonely night? What say you guys to that possibility?
OOH now THAT would be cool. Bill is all waiting for her to show up at her front door and goes to her house and she is not there because she went to Eric-pretty much anything that is going to continue to expose Bill for the sack of crap that he is I am for. I am hoping for something that will resemble the structure of the idea but surprise me and be even better than I could hope for. S2E9 would be a good example. christ on a cracker this was so much easier last year when I didn’t even CARE about this show-how times have changed. Also-we can assume that Russell is going to be spending way less than 100 years in his cement tomb BUT Denis O”hare has a play commitment for some window of time so I am wondering how that will play out. Sad Panda stuff is the best esp when it involves Eric Northman.
I found it funny this story came out today (I spent most of the weekend on some gossip websites doing what I am sure you can guess but I won’t say) and I couldn’t help but wonder if there were any hints dropped from AB to cast during the Scream Festivities.
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Geez Louise. Eric not in his right mind, Sookie suffering some sort of reboot, that may/probably impair her memory. Who knows how Tara will come back?
We may all lose our minds trying to decipher it all. Anyone else on the brain drain train?
Season 3 didn’t drive me nearly as crazy as season 2, with the notable exception of that notorious piece of shite melodrama that was Bill’s dream of Caroline. Hopefully, it’s only getting better, read: more truthful, as we go along. I’ll probably start hurling things at the teevee if we get Stepford Sookie sans any kind of narrative explanation for why she’s like that.
I checked my insurance policy to see if it covered “throwing things at the TV”.
Nope! Have to set up some sort of target to release frustrations.
i still dont get how eric and bill are in a “deadly feud” ??? really? i dont see bill as being worth erics time…
Hi xenab, welcome!
I think the deadly feud ignited after Eric found out Bill tried to have Pam killed. As we know, you don’t mess with Eric’s family!
yeah that would make sense… but i guess i find it hard to believe it would be much of a feud with bill…eric could squash him like a bug any time he wanted to…
eric could squash him like a bug any time he wanted to…
Sure he could but he can’t right now because of Sookie. I think he’ll wait until Sookie comes to a point that she WANTS Bill dead THEN Eric will kill him. Jason–Eric’s main doppelganger–killing Franklin–a doppelganger of Bill–foreshadows that this is exactly what will happen..eventually.
one can only hope
btw…i LOVE ur blog…i wish i had known about it earlier,but better late thn never i say
Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf was so damn good it gave me chills! and a lot to think about.
Why thank you xenab, I’m glad you found it! And I’m glad you enjoyed my Gran theory. Many are very resistent to the idea of Bill killing Gran–they think AB will never take him that dark– but I think the Rattray reveal shows just the opposite. AB is just getting started with the depths of Bill’s evil.
you know i agree with that…the fact that he went as far as to show us without a shadow of a doubt that he got her beaten almost to death says a lot…he could have just insinuated it…left it for us to ponder over for the next few months…but they way it was done with bill admitting it…i believe its just the tip of the iceberg of bills true character. I,for one,hope AB does take bill to the darkest corners possible….much much more interesting…
LOL and i wont lie…i just want to see some of the more “intense” bill fans try to justify bill out of those situations…
Billbangers have followed him, wholeheartedly, this far down the moral abyss. I expect them to go all the way down.
yeah most definitely…but im talking about those that insist bill isnt evil…and the rattrays thing was before he loved sookie,and now he’s a changed man… blah..even typing that makes me a little sick.
oh n the ones that think season 4 is going to be all about bills redemption… gimme a break
Of course they do not or cannot admit he’s evil. They just keep justifying and excusing his actions no matter how heinous, which compromises their own moral credibility.
i would love to see that too:)
Hi ledrolf, welcome!
I’m sure we will, eventually.
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